1 00:00:05,701 --> 00:00:07,485 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,703 --> 00:00:08,965 sexually based offenses 3 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:11,098 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:11,315 --> 00:00:13,796 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:15,494 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:15,711 --> 00:00:17,104 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:17,321 --> 00:00:18,975 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:19,149 --> 00:00:20,846 These are their stories. 9 00:00:22,370 --> 00:00:24,024 You're a pill sometimes, you know that? 10 00:00:24,198 --> 00:00:25,329 I answered your question. 11 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:26,827 "I don't know" is not an answer. 12 00:00:26,852 --> 00:00:28,067 Would you rather me lie to you? 13 00:00:28,071 --> 00:00:29,511 I'd rather you just tell me straight. 14 00:00:29,638 --> 00:00:31,198 And I'd like to enjoy this cup of coffee 15 00:00:31,335 --> 00:00:33,294 -before I'm interrogated. -Oh, you guys, 16 00:00:33,511 --> 00:00:35,209 it's not too late to swap partners again. 17 00:00:35,426 --> 00:00:37,424 You know, I set him up with a mom from Jessie's school. 18 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:38,690 She's super cute, not crazy. 19 00:00:38,908 --> 00:00:40,079 And he won't make his mind up if he 20 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:41,341 wants to see her again or not. 21 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:43,173 Uh, Rollins, you know better than that. 22 00:00:43,391 --> 00:00:45,045 You don't set up your partner on dates. 23 00:00:45,262 --> 00:00:46,176 Oh... 24 00:00:46,394 --> 00:00:48,004 Come on, he's not wrong. 25 00:00:48,178 --> 00:00:49,832 I was being nice. 26 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,181 The date was fine. 27 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:52,791 We went to dinner. We saw a movie. 28 00:00:53,009 --> 00:00:54,489 I gave it a shot. 29 00:00:54,706 --> 00:00:56,356 I just feel like I have enough on my plate right now. 30 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,361 So you don't like her. 31 00:00:57,579 --> 00:00:59,059 Oh, my God. 32 00:00:59,276 --> 00:01:00,665 I don't have time for paperwork, man! 33 00:01:00,669 --> 00:01:01,829 Just tell me who's in charge! 34 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:02,684 Who's in charge, man? 35 00:01:02,845 --> 00:01:03,645 Who I gotta talk to? 36 00:01:03,802 --> 00:01:04,847 Hi, there. 37 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:06,675 Hi, I'm Captain Benson. 38 00:01:06,892 --> 00:01:08,024 How can I help you? 39 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:14,900 Oh, hello. 40 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:17,642 Uh, how about you come join me in my office? 41 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:20,471 Hi, follow me. 42 00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:25,302 Okay, so tell us what happened. 43 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,739 I'm helping him clean up in the bath this morning. 44 00:01:27,957 --> 00:01:29,741 All of a sudden he pulls away. 45 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,960 Says it hurts. 46 00:01:31,134 --> 00:01:32,744 Did you see what was wrong? 47 00:01:32,962 --> 00:01:35,704 He had, um, bruises on his back. 48 00:01:35,921 --> 00:01:37,271 On his legs too. 49 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:39,095 Okay, did he say anything else in the moment? 50 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:40,574 No, like... 51 00:01:40,578 --> 00:01:42,315 I tried asking what happened. He wouldn't tell me. 52 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,016 Mom doesn't know what happened either? 53 00:01:44,191 --> 00:01:45,366 She passed. 54 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:46,367 Cancer. Last year. 55 00:01:46,584 --> 00:01:47,890 Oh, I'm so sorry. 56 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:49,322 Listen, I get that you have questions, 57 00:01:49,326 --> 00:01:50,193 but I just want this dealt with. 58 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:51,807 -Okay. -Mr. DeMarco, 59 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:53,939 asking questions is how we deal with it. 60 00:01:54,114 --> 00:01:57,029 Okay, so has Michael seen a doctor yet? 61 00:01:57,204 --> 00:01:58,505 No, that's a waste of time. 62 00:01:58,509 --> 00:02:00,163 As soon as I saw it, I came straight here. 63 00:02:00,381 --> 00:02:01,682 So what do you mean, "that's a waste of time?" 64 00:02:01,686 --> 00:02:03,775 Because I know who did it! 65 00:02:03,993 --> 00:02:05,951 Who did it? 66 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:09,738 Brandon Klein. 67 00:02:09,955 --> 00:02:11,131 He's a high school kid. 68 00:02:11,305 --> 00:02:12,871 Babysits when I gotta work weekends. 69 00:02:13,089 --> 00:02:14,249 He's my best friend's oldest. 70 00:02:14,351 --> 00:02:15,918 Known Michael since he was born. 71 00:02:16,136 --> 00:02:19,051 Okay, well, we'll talk to Brandon. 72 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:22,272 Um, but what makes you so sure that it was him? 73 00:02:22,490 --> 00:02:24,970 Because Michael was fine yesterday 74 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:26,146 before Brandon had him. 75 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,582 And if you stop questioning me 76 00:02:27,799 --> 00:02:29,584 and go ahead and pick him up, you'd know. 77 00:02:31,238 --> 00:02:33,153 Sorry, Daddy. 78 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:35,285 All right, Mr. DeMarco, listen to me. 79 00:02:35,503 --> 00:02:37,853 If something did happen to Michael, 80 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:40,160 then we need to make sure that we get this right. 81 00:02:40,377 --> 00:02:42,901 And that starts with getting him to the hospital. 82 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:44,959 I know you said he had a bath, but any evidence 83 00:02:45,121 --> 00:02:46,336 -at all can be helpful. -Mm-hmm. 84 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:47,300 Would that take a while? 85 00:02:47,515 --> 00:02:48,994 It takes as long as it takes. 86 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,519 But before, uh, we do that, 87 00:02:51,736 --> 00:02:53,347 I would like to talk to Michael alone. 88 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:54,565 No, no. 89 00:02:54,783 --> 00:02:55,958 He's my kid. 90 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,307 I wanna hear what he says. 91 00:02:57,525 --> 00:02:58,874 Okay, that's fine, 92 00:02:59,091 --> 00:03:01,311 as long as you let me do the talking 93 00:03:01,529 --> 00:03:04,358 and, for Michael's sake, that you... 94 00:03:04,575 --> 00:03:07,752 you hold it together, okay? 95 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:10,102 Okay. 96 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,717 So, Michael, my name is Olivia. 97 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:17,632 Hey, you want something to drink? 98 00:03:17,849 --> 00:03:18,720 No? 99 00:03:18,937 --> 00:03:20,461 Well, that is a cool toy. 100 00:03:20,678 --> 00:03:23,899 Is that... is that a superhero? 101 00:03:24,116 --> 00:03:26,641 Yeah? Does he have super powers? 102 00:03:26,858 --> 00:03:28,817 He eats bad guys. 103 00:03:29,034 --> 00:03:31,080 He eats them? 104 00:03:31,254 --> 00:03:32,299 Wow. 105 00:03:32,516 --> 00:03:34,605 And how does he know who's bad? 106 00:03:34,823 --> 00:03:36,346 I tell him. 107 00:03:36,564 --> 00:03:37,826 You tell him. 108 00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:40,742 Well, that kind of... 109 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:43,919 that kind of makes you a superhero, too, doesn't it? 110 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:54,321 Have you told him to eat any bad guys lately? 111 00:03:54,538 --> 00:03:56,148 Brandon. 112 00:03:56,323 --> 00:03:57,541 Uh-huh. And why's that? 113 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,022 He makes me take naps. 114 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,676 I hate naps. 115 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:02,851 Yeah, me too. 116 00:04:03,068 --> 00:04:04,853 I hated naps. 117 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:06,550 Is that... is that the only reason 118 00:04:06,768 --> 00:04:08,552 that Brandon's a bad guy? 119 00:04:10,424 --> 00:04:12,730 -Answer her, Michael. -Hey... 120 00:04:12,948 --> 00:04:14,206 -Maybe we should take a walk. -It's okay. 121 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:15,342 Hey, look. It's okay. 122 00:04:15,559 --> 00:04:17,169 Nobody's mad at you. 123 00:04:17,344 --> 00:04:19,171 I think your dad is just... you know, 124 00:04:19,346 --> 00:04:23,350 he's just upset because he knows you got hurt. 125 00:04:23,567 --> 00:04:25,613 And we're all just trying to figure out 126 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:27,310 how... how that happened. 127 00:04:27,528 --> 00:04:28,442 Right? 128 00:04:31,140 --> 00:04:33,490 Not Brandon. 129 00:04:33,708 --> 00:04:35,623 Brandon's friend. 130 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:37,581 The man. 131 00:04:37,799 --> 00:04:39,409 What man, Michael? 132 00:04:39,627 --> 00:04:40,841 -Look at me, son. -Mr. DeMarco. 133 00:04:40,845 --> 00:04:42,278 Tell me what he did to you right now. 134 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:43,366 -You have to back up! -You need to do something! 135 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:45,285 Stop! 136 00:04:45,459 --> 00:04:48,375 We took pictures, Daddy. 137 00:04:49,811 --> 00:04:52,683 I wasn't supposed to tell. 138 00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:50,650 I don't know what this is about, 139 00:05:50,654 --> 00:05:51,651 but his parents are on the way. 140 00:05:51,655 --> 00:05:52,743 No, Brandon's 17. 141 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:54,001 We can talk to him without them. 142 00:05:54,005 --> 00:05:54,963 Thanks. 143 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:56,420 We're Special Victims, Brandon. 144 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:59,054 Detective Bruno, Sergeant Rollins. 145 00:05:59,271 --> 00:06:00,838 I was in the middle of a chemistry test. 146 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:02,362 I don't wanna fail. 147 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:03,750 I think you know a chemistry test 148 00:06:03,754 --> 00:06:05,756 is the last of your problems. 149 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:08,498 We're here to talk about Michael DeMarco. 150 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:09,978 M-Michael? 151 00:06:10,195 --> 00:06:11,893 Sit down. 152 00:06:14,983 --> 00:06:16,637 Now, since you know lying is only 153 00:06:16,854 --> 00:06:18,639 gonna make things worse for you, 154 00:06:18,856 --> 00:06:20,136 you're gonna tell us everything. 155 00:06:22,991 --> 00:06:24,558 I... I don't know how to say this. 156 00:06:24,775 --> 00:06:26,255 Figure it out. 157 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,913 I, uh, have thoughts. 158 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:33,654 What kind of thoughts? 159 00:06:36,004 --> 00:06:37,222 About kids. 160 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:39,181 And I know it's wrong, and I hate it. 161 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:40,599 I-I've tried to turn them off. 162 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:43,272 You have thoughts about Michael? 163 00:06:43,446 --> 00:06:45,753 Yes, but I never touched Michael. 164 00:06:45,970 --> 00:06:47,537 You expect us to believe that? 165 00:06:47,755 --> 00:06:48,875 Yes, because it's the truth. 166 00:06:48,930 --> 00:06:50,410 Who was it, Brandon? 167 00:06:50,584 --> 00:06:52,281 Who did you take Michael to see? 168 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:54,762 I... I met him on this forum online for people like me. 169 00:06:54,979 --> 00:06:56,542 He said he knew what I was going through, 170 00:06:56,546 --> 00:06:57,866 that he could help me control it. 171 00:06:57,939 --> 00:07:00,202 Give us a name. 172 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,117 I only know him by his first name... 173 00:07:02,334 --> 00:07:03,423 Lloyd. 174 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,729 I... I told him about Michael. 175 00:07:05,947 --> 00:07:07,905 -He wanted to meet him. -Where? 176 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:10,255 In some empty apartment in the West Village. 177 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:12,519 He's, like, a real estate guy or something. 178 00:07:12,736 --> 00:07:14,651 And you brought Michael there? 179 00:07:14,869 --> 00:07:17,480 I said no so many times, but he threatened me. 180 00:07:17,698 --> 00:07:19,439 He said he'd tell my family about me. 181 00:07:19,613 --> 00:07:20,871 And that's more important to you 182 00:07:20,875 --> 00:07:22,267 than protecting a little boy? 183 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:23,834 He said he just wanted photos. 184 00:07:24,052 --> 00:07:25,445 Called it "content." 185 00:07:25,619 --> 00:07:27,925 Said he was some producer for some other website 186 00:07:28,143 --> 00:07:29,140 on the dark net. 187 00:07:29,144 --> 00:07:31,538 I don't even know what that is. 188 00:07:31,755 --> 00:07:35,019 When we got there, Michael wouldn't listen. 189 00:07:35,237 --> 00:07:38,588 So Lloyd grabbed him, made him take off his clothes. 190 00:07:38,806 --> 00:07:41,591 I didn't want Michael to get hurt. 191 00:07:41,809 --> 00:07:44,551 You hand-delivered a five-year-old child 192 00:07:44,768 --> 00:07:46,466 to a stranger, Brandon, 193 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,076 and you didn't want him to get hurt? 194 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:50,644 I told you, Lloyd made me. 195 00:07:50,861 --> 00:07:52,859 And it was just pictures. That's all that happened. 196 00:07:52,863 --> 00:07:54,125 I swear. 197 00:07:54,343 --> 00:07:55,475 That's not so bad, right? 198 00:08:03,874 --> 00:08:05,219 It's beautiful, right? 199 00:08:05,223 --> 00:08:07,748 Like I said, if you love it, don't leave it. 200 00:08:07,965 --> 00:08:09,489 I do kind of love it. 201 00:08:09,706 --> 00:08:11,229 You sure there's no room on the price? 202 00:08:11,447 --> 00:08:13,275 Well, I'll talk to the owner, 203 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:15,277 but we've already got two solid offers. 204 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:17,366 Does that mean we're too late? 205 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:18,628 This place is gorgeous. 206 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:20,017 Great natural light. Private yard. 207 00:08:20,021 --> 00:08:21,065 What do you think? 208 00:08:21,283 --> 00:08:23,198 I think we're ready to close. 209 00:08:23,415 --> 00:08:24,982 How you doing, Lloyd? 210 00:08:29,465 --> 00:08:32,076 This is obviously a big misunderstanding. 211 00:08:32,294 --> 00:08:33,934 You mean you didn't talk a high school kid 212 00:08:34,122 --> 00:08:35,689 into bringing you a five-year-old boy? 213 00:08:35,906 --> 00:08:38,169 I mean, people tell stories. 214 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:40,037 Like cops, you guys fabricate stuff all the... 215 00:08:40,041 --> 00:08:41,564 We found your camera in your car. 216 00:08:41,782 --> 00:08:43,435 Nothing on that. You can't pin that on me. 217 00:08:43,610 --> 00:08:45,307 That's because you wiped the SD card. 218 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:47,265 But we will recover what you erased. 219 00:08:47,483 --> 00:08:49,220 Something tells me that's not all we're gonna find. 220 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:52,009 And we didn't fabricate the fingertip bruising 221 00:08:52,227 --> 00:08:55,447 that we found on Michael's thigh. 222 00:08:55,622 --> 00:08:57,537 We didn't fabricate that. 223 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,325 So how'd you get into real estate? 224 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:04,587 What? 225 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,328 Your job. 226 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,635 Any good at it? 227 00:09:08,852 --> 00:09:10,637 Yeah, I'm good. 228 00:09:10,854 --> 00:09:13,422 -Natural gift. -A gift? Wow. 229 00:09:13,596 --> 00:09:15,685 So a gift for which part? 230 00:09:15,903 --> 00:09:17,774 Selling, 231 00:09:17,992 --> 00:09:20,516 or, like I say, guiding people into decisions. 232 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:23,301 Oh, that's kind of like what we do, actually. 233 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:25,347 Do you have any pointers? 234 00:09:26,391 --> 00:09:27,436 Pointers? 235 00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:29,394 Pointers on making a deal. 236 00:09:29,569 --> 00:09:32,006 Like I said, we know exactly what you 237 00:09:32,223 --> 00:09:33,616 put that little boy through. 238 00:09:33,834 --> 00:09:37,315 And now you are gonna tell us about the website. 239 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:38,661 I don't know about any webs... 240 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:40,144 You do know. Stop. 241 00:09:40,362 --> 00:09:43,408 Don't even try 242 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:44,845 to pretend that you don't know 243 00:09:45,062 --> 00:09:47,151 what we're talking about because we know 244 00:09:47,369 --> 00:09:51,286 that you produce content for a dark net website. 245 00:09:51,503 --> 00:09:55,464 And now you're gonna tell us how we get there. 246 00:10:00,774 --> 00:10:02,950 Sears, tell me that Lloyd's credentials checked out. 247 00:10:03,167 --> 00:10:04,865 -Yes, they did. -Oh, thank God. 248 00:10:05,082 --> 00:10:07,084 Thank you for the assist because the dark net is... 249 00:10:07,302 --> 00:10:08,622 The dark net isn't the hard part. 250 00:10:08,738 --> 00:10:10,178 It just means decentralized internet. 251 00:10:10,392 --> 00:10:13,134 The Gate is a child sexual abuse material website. 252 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:14,631 Homepage claims it only features 253 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:15,785 children here in New York. 254 00:10:15,789 --> 00:10:17,007 That's atypical. 255 00:10:17,225 --> 00:10:18,825 Most CSAM sites aren't location-specific. 256 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,576 Apparently, it's one of its selling points. 257 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,535 Did you find the photos of Michael DeMarco? 258 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:25,142 Uploaded last night. 259 00:10:25,146 --> 00:10:27,100 But there are hundreds more files on this thing... 260 00:10:27,104 --> 00:10:29,759 images, videos. 261 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:32,109 How many more victims are there? 262 00:10:32,327 --> 00:10:34,503 First glance? Dozens. 263 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:35,852 I'll need time to know more. 264 00:10:37,419 --> 00:10:39,421 One other so-called selling point 265 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,553 you should brace yourself for... 266 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:44,644 Babies and toddlers? 267 00:10:44,861 --> 00:10:46,689 The only material allowed on The Gate 268 00:10:46,907 --> 00:10:48,648 is of children five and under. 269 00:11:00,181 --> 00:11:02,400 We spent the last few hours helping Sears figure out 270 00:11:02,618 --> 00:11:03,837 how this thing works. 271 00:11:04,054 --> 00:11:05,273 Do we know when this began? 272 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:06,927 Earliest posts are from last year. 273 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:09,103 Over a thousand active user accounts. 274 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,455 Intel gave us some insight on how CSAM sites like these go. 275 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:15,457 So users view the materials. 276 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:16,980 The moderators oversee them. 277 00:11:17,198 --> 00:11:18,765 They... they do the day-to-day. 278 00:11:18,982 --> 00:11:20,941 They run the site's messaging platform. 279 00:11:21,158 --> 00:11:23,683 And producers like Lloyd are actually making this stuff? 280 00:11:23,857 --> 00:11:25,380 Only one person knows who they are. 281 00:11:25,597 --> 00:11:27,643 Creator and admin... Gatekeeper. 282 00:11:27,817 --> 00:11:29,297 Producers submit their content to him. 283 00:11:29,471 --> 00:11:31,168 He uploads it through his account. 284 00:11:31,386 --> 00:11:32,779 Why the extra step? 285 00:11:32,996 --> 00:11:34,302 Approval and security. 286 00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:36,478 Gatekeeper scrubs the files of metadata. 287 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:37,776 Anything that could tell us 288 00:11:37,958 --> 00:11:39,394 a date, time, or location is wiped. 289 00:11:39,611 --> 00:11:41,178 But wiping it isn't the only way 290 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:42,789 Gatekeeper keeps the site secure. 291 00:11:43,006 --> 00:11:44,747 So "The Gate remains impenetrable." 292 00:11:44,965 --> 00:11:46,444 "Proceed as normal. 293 00:11:46,662 --> 00:11:47,833 Happy viewing." 294 00:11:47,837 --> 00:11:49,709 Sites like this assume law enforcement's 295 00:11:49,883 --> 00:11:51,489 trying to breach. 296 00:11:51,493 --> 00:11:53,930 Gatekeeper throws up a canary every day to let the users 297 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:55,279 know that hasn't happened. 298 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:57,455 -Okay... -Peace of mind for predators. 299 00:11:57,673 --> 00:11:59,893 We take away those canaries, and the users know that 300 00:12:00,110 --> 00:12:01,590 the whole site's been compromised... 301 00:12:01,764 --> 00:12:03,331 And then the whole thing falls apart. 302 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:04,549 No gatekeeper, no gate. 303 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:05,942 So we need to find him. 304 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,727 We need to get into his account. 305 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:09,772 We'll recover the data on the producers 306 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:12,557 and then hold him long enough for the site to go down. 307 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,995 Problem is, we're in through Lloyd's account, 308 00:12:15,212 --> 00:12:17,301 and my access is limited. 309 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:18,868 I need to get back to HQ. 310 00:12:19,086 --> 00:12:23,525 While you're doing that, we need to identify 311 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,266 as many victims as we can. 312 00:12:25,483 --> 00:12:28,356 The only way to ID them is one file at a time. 313 00:12:28,573 --> 00:12:30,223 We've gotta look at every video, photo individually. 314 00:12:30,227 --> 00:12:32,012 Yeah. 315 00:12:32,229 --> 00:12:34,188 Hope there's something in there that 316 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:36,799 tells us who these kids are. 317 00:12:37,017 --> 00:12:39,367 I can load up some hard drives, 318 00:12:39,584 --> 00:12:40,803 leave them behind for you. 319 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:44,938 All right, it's a very long day, 320 00:12:45,155 --> 00:12:48,115 so let's start fresh tomorrow, okay? 321 00:12:48,332 --> 00:12:50,247 And we will do this 322 00:12:50,465 --> 00:12:51,727 together. 323 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:11,834 -Morning, Cap. -Bruno, what is this? 324 00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:13,270 Crime board. 325 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:16,578 What did you do? 326 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:18,885 What needed to be done. 327 00:13:19,102 --> 00:13:21,583 How much of this did you get through? 328 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:22,802 All of it. 329 00:13:23,019 --> 00:13:24,339 I figured I'd save you some time. 330 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:25,805 Bruno, 331 00:13:26,022 --> 00:13:27,894 I don't remember asking you to do that. 332 00:13:28,111 --> 00:13:29,896 Hey, I need you to look at me. 333 00:13:30,113 --> 00:13:33,203 Bruno, you know that we don't do 334 00:13:33,421 --> 00:13:36,032 things like this by ourselves. 335 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,729 All right, I, uh... 336 00:13:37,904 --> 00:13:39,466 I just really just wanted to get us ahead. 337 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:40,859 And I just thought, you know, everybody else 338 00:13:40,863 --> 00:13:42,382 has a family to go home to, so... 339 00:13:42,386 --> 00:13:44,426 Oh, that's your excuse for taking the bullet on this 340 00:13:44,606 --> 00:13:47,043 and going through hours and hours 341 00:13:47,261 --> 00:13:48,784 of child abuse material by yourself? 342 00:13:48,958 --> 00:13:50,477 Okay, it was a little above and beyond... 343 00:13:50,481 --> 00:13:52,222 -A little? -Okay, but it's already done. 344 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,790 And I found some things that could really help us out. 345 00:13:57,532 --> 00:14:01,753 Across all the site's material, the crimes vary. 346 00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:05,061 We're looking at exploitation and creating CSAM. 347 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,498 But in some of the cases, we're also looking at 348 00:14:07,716 --> 00:14:10,588 forcible touching and various kinds of sexual abuse. 349 00:14:10,806 --> 00:14:13,722 Now, I count 26 different kids. 350 00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:15,855 Any luck ID'ing them? 351 00:14:16,029 --> 00:14:17,374 Most of the files don't help, and the abusers are good 352 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:19,249 at hiding the who and where, right? 353 00:14:19,467 --> 00:14:21,469 But some of them slipped up. 354 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:25,952 So one video takes place in a young girl's bedroom. 355 00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:29,346 She's about four or five, 356 00:14:29,564 --> 00:14:31,218 blonde hair. 357 00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:34,308 She's got a lot of dolphin stuffed animals. 358 00:14:34,525 --> 00:14:36,919 The... the abuser molests her. 359 00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:41,141 And we see this carpet with this distinctive pattern. 360 00:14:41,358 --> 00:14:43,360 Now, he's good at keeping his face off camera, 361 00:14:43,578 --> 00:14:46,886 but we know he's white, male, no discernible accent. 362 00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:49,714 Maybe Real Time Crime gets lucky with the manufacturer, 363 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,020 gives us a direction. 364 00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:52,674 Yeah, and what also helps us is that 365 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:54,328 the video catches a glimpse 366 00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:55,891 of the World Trade through a window. 367 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,679 Enough to pinpoint a location? 368 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,764 TARU's confident. We should hear from them soon. 369 00:14:59,768 --> 00:15:01,988 But my second lead is the one that 370 00:15:02,205 --> 00:15:03,485 I think we can actually move on. 371 00:15:03,685 --> 00:15:05,382 -Okay. -So it's another video. 372 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,689 It was uploaded, like, a week ago, 373 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,170 and it takes place in what looks like a classroom. 374 00:15:10,387 --> 00:15:12,085 -A classroom? -Yeah. 375 00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:14,565 Uh, the abuser has the girl undress. 376 00:15:14,783 --> 00:15:16,306 It's another young girl, 377 00:15:16,524 --> 00:15:18,091 light brown hair. 378 00:15:18,308 --> 00:15:22,008 And, uh, on her T-shirt, I can see this. 379 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:24,793 Wait, I recognize that... the Codignotto School. 380 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:27,274 Upper West Side, pre-K and kindergarten, 381 00:15:27,491 --> 00:15:28,710 private, fancy. 382 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,273 And a teacher sick enough to do this 383 00:15:30,277 --> 00:15:32,279 in his own classroom. 384 00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:34,020 We got his voice on video. 385 00:15:34,237 --> 00:15:36,065 And he says his victim's name... Gemma. 386 00:15:36,283 --> 00:15:38,328 Okay, so then we will leave now. 387 00:15:38,546 --> 00:15:40,026 Rollins, you and I will find Gemma. 388 00:15:40,243 --> 00:15:42,158 You identify the classroom 389 00:15:42,376 --> 00:15:44,465 and try to match this son of a bitch up to his voice. 390 00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:47,816 Hey... 391 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:49,550 I already got a lot of heat from Benson. 392 00:15:49,731 --> 00:15:52,690 I wanted to say... thank you. 393 00:15:52,908 --> 00:15:54,562 You didn't have to do this by yourself. 394 00:15:54,779 --> 00:15:57,217 And maybe don't do it again either. 395 00:16:07,531 --> 00:16:09,751 This is insane! I didn't do anything! 396 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,187 You have the wrong guy! 397 00:16:11,405 --> 00:16:12,532 Yeah, it doesn't sound like it, Mr. Smith. 398 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:13,711 Walk! 399 00:16:13,929 --> 00:16:15,235 You sure it's Gemma? 400 00:16:15,452 --> 00:16:16,976 Um, we're pretty confident. 401 00:16:17,150 --> 00:16:19,630 But we'll know more after we go through his computer 402 00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:20,980 and his phone. 403 00:16:21,154 --> 00:16:23,983 And you're sure he didn't touch her? 404 00:16:24,157 --> 00:16:26,202 We only know what we saw on the video, 405 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:28,335 but we're gonna need to talk to Gemma. 406 00:16:28,552 --> 00:16:31,642 And we're gonna take her to the doctor, okay? 407 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:35,603 And what if he did something more than make her undress? 408 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:38,345 Then we will make sure that he pays for it. 409 00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:43,437 And there's a video, which is just out there? 410 00:16:43,654 --> 00:16:45,774 Once something is on the internet, it's there forever! 411 00:16:46,918 --> 00:16:49,617 I personally will not stop until that site 412 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:52,011 is taken down, okay? 413 00:16:52,228 --> 00:16:54,317 Rollins. 414 00:16:54,535 --> 00:16:57,320 Okay. 415 00:16:57,538 --> 00:17:01,672 Uh, Sears has something. 416 00:17:01,890 --> 00:17:03,583 Remember when I said I had to poke holes in the site 417 00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:04,719 -to find Gatekeeper? -Yeah? 418 00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:06,056 I might have poked too hard. 419 00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:07,631 How do you know that? 420 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:09,395 Because we got a message into Lloyd's account 421 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:10,986 from one of the moderators. 422 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,646 "Need to talk tonight. 423 00:17:18,863 --> 00:17:19,908 In person." 424 00:17:20,082 --> 00:17:21,471 Okay. 425 00:17:21,475 --> 00:17:24,521 Are there any other messages from them to Lloyd 426 00:17:24,739 --> 00:17:26,393 or any other connections? 427 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:27,999 None that I could find. 428 00:17:28,003 --> 00:17:29,479 Which means either they know each other off site, 429 00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:31,568 or they know we're cops and this is some kind of trap. 430 00:17:31,572 --> 00:17:32,921 Or... 431 00:17:33,095 --> 00:17:35,141 this is an opportunity. 432 00:17:35,358 --> 00:17:38,361 Moderator gets us one step closer to Gatekeeper 433 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:40,885 to shut this whole thing down. 434 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,322 Set the meet. 435 00:17:42,539 --> 00:17:44,324 Okay, we just... there's no way of knowing 436 00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:46,413 who this moderator is, 437 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:47,631 what they want, 438 00:17:47,849 --> 00:17:49,064 what they're planning. 439 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:50,504 I know that this is a little risky, 440 00:17:50,721 --> 00:17:53,942 but I also know that we can control it. 441 00:18:09,653 --> 00:18:11,699 Standing by for a while. 442 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:14,267 What time is it now? 443 00:18:14,484 --> 00:18:16,747 7:45. You all right? 444 00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:19,533 I'm just antsy. 445 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:21,361 The moderator's 45 minutes late. 446 00:18:21,578 --> 00:18:23,319 How much longer we gonna wait here? 447 00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:27,932 Maybe not long. 448 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:32,154 Got an incoming on your right... male subject, white, 40s. 449 00:18:32,372 --> 00:18:35,940 There's a second subject, an Asian female. 450 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:42,382 We're right here, Bruno. 451 00:18:52,522 --> 00:18:53,958 I'm meeting someone. 452 00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:56,222 So are we. 453 00:18:56,439 --> 00:18:58,049 Might be each other. 454 00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:01,444 So how about we just skip to the part 455 00:19:01,662 --> 00:19:03,403 where we introduce ourselves? 456 00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:08,625 -NYPD! -Whoa, whoa... 457 00:19:08,843 --> 00:19:09,800 Now. 458 00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:11,015 -Do not move! -Hey, hey. 459 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:12,934 Hey, hey, hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa! 460 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,023 Do not move your hands! 461 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:16,851 I will shoot you. Do not move that hand! 462 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:18,679 -Let's talk. -Hands! 463 00:19:18,896 --> 00:19:20,420 -This isn't what you think. -Slowly. 464 00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:21,986 Slow-ly. 465 00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:26,556 He asked for an introduction. 466 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,040 Craig Lynch. 467 00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:34,869 Lauren Fei, FBI Special Task Force. 468 00:19:36,218 --> 00:19:39,003 Okay. 469 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:40,396 Let's talk. 470 00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:52,404 The whole fake meet thing necessary? 471 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:53,884 Well, we had to find out who was inside 472 00:19:53,888 --> 00:19:55,194 the account you infiltrated. 473 00:19:55,368 --> 00:19:56,452 Yeah, how'd you know it was infiltrated? 474 00:19:56,456 --> 00:19:57,892 Login patterns changed. 475 00:19:58,109 --> 00:19:59,198 Up went the red flag. 476 00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:00,456 Felt like law enforcement, 477 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:02,026 which is why we called the meet. 478 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:05,465 A federal task force is running a child abuse website. 479 00:20:05,682 --> 00:20:07,031 How did that come to be? 480 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:08,768 Six months ago, the U.S. Attorney's Office 481 00:20:08,772 --> 00:20:10,731 reached out to us about a CSAM distribution case 482 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:12,472 out of Putnam County. 483 00:20:12,689 --> 00:20:14,822 Turns out the suspect was a moderator on The Gate. 484 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:16,998 And you flipped him to get inside. 485 00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:18,343 Same way you did. 486 00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:20,958 Okay, so you knowingly allowed The Gate 487 00:20:21,176 --> 00:20:23,613 and the Gatekeeper to continue operating 488 00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:26,050 for six months. 489 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:27,483 Why? 490 00:20:27,487 --> 00:20:29,445 Because it led us to something bigger. 491 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:31,360 Moderators oversee every user 492 00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:33,362 and every private message between them. 493 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:35,625 We started reviewing those messages, 494 00:20:35,843 --> 00:20:37,403 and that's when we found what we believe 495 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:38,668 is a group of traffickers 496 00:20:38,672 --> 00:20:39,992 coordinating the sale of children. 497 00:20:40,151 --> 00:20:41,323 Coordinating how? 498 00:20:41,327 --> 00:20:43,329 They're using the site to communicate. 499 00:20:43,546 --> 00:20:45,200 Why wasn't SVU notified? 500 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,768 Because we have reason to believe it crosses state lines. 501 00:20:47,985 --> 00:20:49,225 So what have you done about it? 502 00:20:49,291 --> 00:20:51,162 As of now, surveil. 503 00:20:51,337 --> 00:20:52,817 We know children are being trafficked, 504 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,906 but we don't know exactly yet where, when, or how. 505 00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:58,324 So six months in, and you've got nothing to show for it. 506 00:20:58,518 --> 00:21:00,563 Just because our intel isn't actionable yet 507 00:21:00,781 --> 00:21:02,021 doesn't mean it's not credible. 508 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:03,653 And by waiting to take action, 509 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:06,308 people like Lloyd and Eric are out there abusing kids. 510 00:21:06,526 --> 00:21:07,744 Babies. 511 00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:09,394 If we make too many producer arrests, 512 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:11,922 we compromise The Gate and our operation with it. 513 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:15,230 So the FBI is okay sacrificing victims like ours, 514 00:21:15,404 --> 00:21:16,971 using them as collateral damage... 515 00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:20,583 While you figure out what your operation actually is. 516 00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:22,625 An operation that could rescue children from being 517 00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:23,978 sold for sex, Captain. 518 00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:26,850 Which brings us to what I imagine 519 00:21:27,068 --> 00:21:28,635 is the real reason 520 00:21:28,852 --> 00:21:30,941 why you actually called the meet, 521 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:33,379 is to ask us to stop making arrests? 522 00:21:33,596 --> 00:21:35,903 We're being overly courteous by explaining ourselves. 523 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,857 And we're not asking. 524 00:21:37,861 --> 00:21:40,560 Lloyd Harris's account will be deleted along with your access. 525 00:21:40,777 --> 00:21:42,605 A few producer arrests, we can contain. 526 00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:44,342 But any more than that blows our cover. 527 00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:45,746 Then I want you out of my squad room 528 00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:47,589 because there is nothing left to talk about. 529 00:21:57,403 --> 00:21:58,803 We're just gonna let them walk away? 530 00:21:58,882 --> 00:22:00,449 As opposed to, what, waste our breath? 531 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,233 We can't just let this happen. 532 00:22:02,408 --> 00:22:04,061 It's not gonna happen, Bruno. 533 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:05,715 What are you thinking, Liv? 534 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:07,413 I don't know. 535 00:22:11,634 --> 00:22:13,984 I just don't really believe in, like, therapy. 536 00:22:14,202 --> 00:22:16,465 Okay, well, this part isn't therapy. 537 00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:20,948 So Survivor Services helps you navigate the court system, 538 00:22:21,165 --> 00:22:23,342 and they are gonna compensate you for any time 539 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:24,691 that you miss work. 540 00:22:24,908 --> 00:22:27,389 -Real money? -Real money. 541 00:22:27,607 --> 00:22:30,305 And they will connect you 542 00:22:30,479 --> 00:22:32,089 with a counselor for you 543 00:22:32,307 --> 00:22:33,787 and for Michael. 544 00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:38,139 And Mr. DeMarco, I strongly advise that you 545 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:39,488 take them up on that 546 00:22:39,706 --> 00:22:40,968 because it's important, 547 00:22:41,185 --> 00:22:44,014 whether you believe in therapy or not. 548 00:22:44,232 --> 00:22:46,669 I'm not gonna talk to some stranger about our problems. 549 00:22:46,887 --> 00:22:50,369 Well, I'll tell you what's not helping right now, 550 00:22:50,543 --> 00:22:52,501 is you. 551 00:22:52,719 --> 00:22:54,020 What's that supposed to mean? 552 00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:55,584 That means that your feelings are valid, 553 00:22:55,635 --> 00:22:58,202 and it's okay for you to be angry. 554 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,204 But what's not okay 555 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,941 is teaching Michael 556 00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:06,472 that anger is the only way to cope with what happened. 557 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:13,827 You sounded like Michael's mom just now. 558 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:20,137 She was always on me for getting mad at stupid stuff. 559 00:23:20,355 --> 00:23:22,096 And I got a lot better, 560 00:23:22,313 --> 00:23:24,141 let more things roll off my back. 561 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,708 But... 562 00:23:28,232 --> 00:23:30,713 I'm slipping since she died. 563 00:23:33,237 --> 00:23:34,543 I know I am. 564 00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:36,401 So what do you think would help with that? 565 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,938 Yeah, yeah, I know. 566 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:40,549 -A therapist. -Yeah. 567 00:23:42,203 --> 00:23:44,466 All right. 568 00:23:46,468 --> 00:23:49,602 Maybe he's little enough that he'll forget about all this. 569 00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:53,214 I... 570 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,390 I don't think so. 571 00:23:55,564 --> 00:23:57,827 But he can learn 572 00:23:58,045 --> 00:24:00,351 how to process it. 573 00:24:00,526 --> 00:24:01,701 And so can you. 574 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:08,359 So this is gonna stick with him? 575 00:24:08,534 --> 00:24:09,448 Forever? 576 00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:12,625 Mr. DeMarco and Michael, 577 00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:14,540 ready for you two. 578 00:24:16,411 --> 00:24:19,066 Come on, papa. 579 00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:29,816 The Feds leaving that site open is unconscionable, 580 00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:31,644 -and you're justifying it. -Oh, no. 581 00:24:31,861 --> 00:24:35,038 I'm saying that you have to weigh all the factors. 582 00:24:35,256 --> 00:24:36,997 If keeping the site open is leading them 583 00:24:37,214 --> 00:24:39,869 to child traffickers, I get that argument. 584 00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:41,998 We can only worry about the crimes we know about, 585 00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:43,264 not the ones that might happen 586 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:44,918 or the ones we might find out about. 587 00:24:45,135 --> 00:24:47,137 -I... -True or false, Fin... 588 00:24:47,355 --> 00:24:49,009 access to child abuse material 589 00:24:49,226 --> 00:24:50,924 only encourages more child abuse? 590 00:24:51,141 --> 00:24:52,621 Both of you have valid points. 591 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:54,971 I'm just not gonna get in between you two. 592 00:24:55,189 --> 00:24:56,712 Okay, listen, shutting down the site, 593 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,453 it doesn't stop anything. 594 00:24:58,627 --> 00:25:00,542 I mean, they'll just go somewhere else. 595 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,719 Yeah, but if it makes it 1% harder for the abuser, 596 00:25:03,937 --> 00:25:06,243 then it's better doing that than sitting on our hands 597 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:07,763 and doing nothing. 598 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:09,112 You don't think it's better to know and track 599 00:25:09,116 --> 00:25:10,509 everybody who's involved? 600 00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:12,594 So you'd be okay with your kids on that website? 601 00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:14,295 -Bruno... -Is that a real question? 602 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,558 Look, I'm just saying it recruits more abusers. 603 00:25:16,776 --> 00:25:18,386 So evidently you're okay with that. 604 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,737 I think you know that's not true. 605 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:23,652 There's dozens of kids on that website 606 00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:25,750 we couldn't identify, and we're just supposed to 607 00:25:25,828 --> 00:25:27,028 leave them behind for the FBI? 608 00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:29,615 No one is getting left behind. 609 00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:31,530 We're continuing with the investigation 610 00:25:31,747 --> 00:25:32,966 of finding Gatekeeper. 611 00:25:33,183 --> 00:25:34,543 Even if it blows up the task force? 612 00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:36,317 Especially if it blows up the task force. 613 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,015 Well, if Fei and Lynch are right, Liv, 614 00:25:38,188 --> 00:25:40,012 you're... you're burning their trafficking case. 615 00:25:40,016 --> 00:25:42,279 It's a case that we can't wait for... 616 00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,586 while other kids get abused? 617 00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:46,724 That just gives the Feds more reason to burn you. 618 00:25:46,849 --> 00:25:48,503 And I don't care if nobody likes it. 619 00:25:48,677 --> 00:25:51,637 We have to help who we can right now. 620 00:25:51,854 --> 00:25:53,639 And even one more baby 621 00:25:53,856 --> 00:25:56,380 is hurt by that site... 622 00:25:58,208 --> 00:25:59,688 The task force nuked Lloyd's account, 623 00:25:59,906 --> 00:26:01,381 so how are we getting in? 624 00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:05,346 Sears just traced Gatekeeper to an IP in Tribeca, 625 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,348 and she said that we are minutes away 626 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,132 from getting a street address. 627 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:14,790 Move, move, move! 628 00:26:15,008 --> 00:26:16,009 NYPD! 629 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,013 -Clear the hall! -Clear! 630 00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:21,580 -Clear! -Clear! 631 00:26:21,797 --> 00:26:23,146 Clear! 632 00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:24,713 Move, move, move, move, move! 633 00:26:24,931 --> 00:26:26,585 Moving! 634 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,717 -In, in! -Clear! 635 00:26:30,501 --> 00:26:34,244 NYPD! Don't move! 636 00:26:34,462 --> 00:26:35,506 Who else is in the house? 637 00:26:35,681 --> 00:26:36,986 No... no one right now. 638 00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:38,335 What does that mean? 639 00:26:38,553 --> 00:26:40,076 Um, my daughter. 640 00:26:40,294 --> 00:26:41,904 She... she's not home. 641 00:26:42,122 --> 00:26:43,863 Got another bedroom. 642 00:27:17,461 --> 00:27:18,680 Her... her name is iris. 643 00:27:18,898 --> 00:27:20,025 Where is she? 644 00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:22,466 With my brother at the park. Why? 645 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:24,860 We ask the questions. How long have you lived here? 646 00:27:25,078 --> 00:27:26,775 Uh, five years. 647 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:28,081 Since she was born. 648 00:27:28,298 --> 00:27:30,300 Got a laptop. 649 00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:31,950 How many computers you got in here? 650 00:27:31,954 --> 00:27:34,174 Uh, just one. Sorry. What are you doing with it? 651 00:27:34,391 --> 00:27:35,693 Are you afraid we might find something? 652 00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:37,173 I don't know what you're talking about. 653 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:39,440 -Oh, you don't? -Bagging another. 654 00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:41,133 I thought you said there was only one. 655 00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:43,792 No, that... that's my brother's, Sam's. 656 00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:45,620 Does he live here too? 657 00:27:45,794 --> 00:27:48,449 Well, he's been staying with us since he got laid off. 658 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:49,711 Is he in trouble? 659 00:27:49,929 --> 00:27:51,408 Is there a reason he would be? 660 00:27:51,626 --> 00:27:52,971 -Well, I don't know. -You don't know? 661 00:27:52,975 --> 00:27:55,369 Uh, he's quiet. 662 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:57,632 He spends a ton of time on that computer. 663 00:27:59,155 --> 00:28:01,201 And with Iris. 664 00:28:01,418 --> 00:28:04,421 "'Real isn't how you are made, ' said the skin horse. 665 00:28:04,639 --> 00:28:06,597 'It's a thing that happens to you. 666 00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:10,514 'When a child loves you for a long, long time, 667 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,474 not just to play with, but really loves you'"... 668 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,998 "Then you become real." 669 00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:18,131 I love that book so much. 670 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,829 -I like it too. -Yeah? 671 00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:23,440 That's my favorite part. What's your favorite part? 672 00:28:23,658 --> 00:28:25,791 I like when the rabbit goes into the stocking 673 00:28:26,008 --> 00:28:27,662 and makes all the milk and cookies. 674 00:28:27,836 --> 00:28:29,225 Oh. 675 00:28:29,229 --> 00:28:31,100 Then he comes out and grabs one of the toys. 676 00:28:31,318 --> 00:28:33,059 Come on, Iris. It's time to go, okay? 677 00:28:33,276 --> 00:28:34,887 -NYPD! -Sam! Sam! Sam! 678 00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:36,149 -No! -Iris! Iris! 679 00:28:39,065 --> 00:28:40,283 Iris, don't worry, my love! 680 00:28:40,501 --> 00:28:41,328 -Sam! -It's okay! 681 00:28:41,545 --> 00:28:43,199 -Iris... -Hey! 682 00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,114 You don't get to talk to her anymore. 683 00:28:45,332 --> 00:28:47,073 You're under arrest. 684 00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:49,031 Please. 685 00:28:57,126 --> 00:29:00,564 You recognize any of these, Sam? 686 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:04,351 You should because they're all yours. 687 00:29:04,568 --> 00:29:09,443 Now, our analyst is, uh, having some trouble accessing them. 688 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,880 Uh, do you know why that is? 689 00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:14,143 Hmm? I'll tell you why. 690 00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:15,761 It's because you locked them down... 691 00:29:15,971 --> 00:29:19,148 encryption that she says is gonna take days to hack. 692 00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:21,687 I don't know anything about that. 693 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,804 -You don't know. -Yeah. 694 00:29:23,022 --> 00:29:25,067 Then how did we find you, Sam? 695 00:29:25,285 --> 00:29:28,549 Was it... was it a coincidence that an IP address 696 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,812 led us to your sister's apartment? 697 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:35,208 Or that a video of your niece being assaulted in her bedroom 698 00:29:35,425 --> 00:29:36,470 ended up on The Gate. 699 00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:38,559 Iris is my everything. 700 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,474 -I would never hurt her. -Sam, stop. 701 00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:43,694 Whether you admit that you're Gatekeeper doesn't matter. 702 00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:46,741 You're looking at enough to put you away for life. 703 00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:49,700 Sexual abuse of your niece. 704 00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:53,313 Operating a child exploitation ring. 705 00:29:53,530 --> 00:29:55,315 And when we get into your computer, 706 00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:57,099 sadly, there'll be so much more. 707 00:29:57,317 --> 00:29:58,797 Then why am I still here? 708 00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:01,582 'Cause your laptop leads us to every predator 709 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,150 who ever filmed something for your site. 710 00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:05,804 And we're gonna find them. 711 00:30:06,892 --> 00:30:08,676 And why would I help with that? 712 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,678 Because you have nothing to lose. 713 00:30:10,852 --> 00:30:13,289 The Gate dies without your next canary, 714 00:30:13,507 --> 00:30:15,465 and we get in anyway. 715 00:30:15,683 --> 00:30:18,425 So the one thing that you can do for yourself... 716 00:30:18,642 --> 00:30:22,168 and for us... is to simply not make us wait. 717 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:28,522 I already said I don't know. 718 00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:30,219 I don't wanna talk anymore. 719 00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:41,404 Well... 720 00:30:41,622 --> 00:30:43,842 what if 721 00:30:44,059 --> 00:30:45,756 we had something to offer you? 722 00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:51,197 Or... 723 00:30:51,414 --> 00:30:54,287 someone. 724 00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:57,986 I mean, maybe the court would allow... 725 00:31:01,076 --> 00:31:03,339 Monthly phone calls. 726 00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:04,863 Cap. 727 00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:07,604 Weekly. 728 00:31:07,822 --> 00:31:08,692 Don't push it. 729 00:31:13,088 --> 00:31:15,177 Actually, I want visits. 730 00:31:15,395 --> 00:31:16,275 Can the court do that? 731 00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:19,878 Cap, I need to talk to you. 732 00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:26,058 Yeah. 733 00:31:26,275 --> 00:31:27,015 Yeah. 734 00:31:33,848 --> 00:31:35,241 They can. 735 00:31:39,158 --> 00:31:40,768 Then I need my laptop. 736 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,385 So we're just offering kids up as bait now? 737 00:31:49,603 --> 00:31:52,301 Sam will see Iris again over my dead body. 738 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,391 We don't usually gratify child sexual predators 739 00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:57,263 with photos of their own victims. 740 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,005 Bruno, you know that we offer whatever we want. 741 00:32:00,222 --> 00:32:01,741 That's not what I'm talking about. 742 00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:03,178 I'm talking about whatever's going on with you, Cap. 743 00:32:03,182 --> 00:32:04,919 Okay, it was an innocent picture, and it worked. 744 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:06,576 And now Sears has everything 745 00:32:06,794 --> 00:32:08,709 she needs to find more producers. 746 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,059 And we arrest them, we identify the victims, 747 00:32:11,277 --> 00:32:12,495 and we watch The Gate die. 748 00:32:12,713 --> 00:32:13,757 Liv! 749 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:15,629 Incoming task force. 750 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,200 Captain Benson. 751 00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,097 Do you have any idea what you've just done? 752 00:32:23,289 --> 00:32:25,026 Yes, I arrested the man responsible for The Gate 753 00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:26,422 and for the abuse of our victims. 754 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,990 Sam Caldwell is in NYPD custody. 755 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:30,727 Not anymore. 756 00:32:30,731 --> 00:32:32,731 A federal detainer from the U.S. Attorney's Office. 757 00:32:32,776 --> 00:32:34,122 Marshals are on their way up. 758 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:35,886 And honestly, I'm not sure what you expected. 759 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:38,304 Well, I expected a reaction, but I hoped 760 00:32:38,521 --> 00:32:39,783 that it wouldn't come to this. 761 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,390 After you went over our heads, 762 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:43,874 arrested Gatekeeper, who you knew was an asset... 763 00:32:44,049 --> 00:32:47,487 The monster in that room, you call an asset? 764 00:32:47,704 --> 00:32:50,007 Considering that without him, the task force falls apart... 765 00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:51,230 That was kind of the idea. 766 00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:53,188 An idea that's left us with no choice. 767 00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:56,148 Because you wanted to become Gatekeeper. 768 00:32:56,365 --> 00:32:58,063 The site gets run by us or not at all. 769 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,282 This is about preserving our operation, 770 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:01,660 rescuing trafficked children. 771 00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:03,285 The only thing you're preserving 772 00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,374 is a site that gives your and our perps 773 00:33:05,592 --> 00:33:07,202 a place to continue doing this. 774 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,504 The site's the only place that 775 00:33:08,508 --> 00:33:10,071 will allow us to find them. 776 00:33:10,075 --> 00:33:12,512 And you're okay with replacing its creator to do it? 777 00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:14,644 We have to replace the creator because of you. 778 00:33:14,862 --> 00:33:16,037 And we're done talking. 779 00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:18,126 Then listen! 780 00:33:18,344 --> 00:33:19,693 Michael DeMarco. 781 00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:23,740 Gemma Burns. 782 00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:25,568 Sam's niece, Iris, 783 00:33:25,786 --> 00:33:27,701 which I'm guessing you didn't even know about 784 00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:29,703 because it's not your priority, is it? 785 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,353 Step back. 786 00:33:31,357 --> 00:33:33,317 The government doesn't wanna arrest child abusers. 787 00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:35,665 They wanna run a child porn site to themselves. 788 00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:37,667 -You are out of line. -These are babies! 789 00:33:37,885 --> 00:33:39,017 Man, look at them! Babies! 790 00:33:39,234 --> 00:33:40,801 Bruno, step back now. 791 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:42,063 Now. 792 00:33:45,501 --> 00:33:46,502 Go. Now. 793 00:33:51,986 --> 00:33:53,814 And turn over everything you've recovered 794 00:33:54,032 --> 00:33:55,120 from Sam Caldwell. 795 00:33:55,337 --> 00:33:57,513 This is over. 796 00:33:57,731 --> 00:33:58,688 Let's go. 797 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,067 Look, Sarge, I screwed up. 798 00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:30,590 I get it. It was dumb. 799 00:34:30,807 --> 00:34:33,114 I'm sorry. It won't happen again. 800 00:34:36,204 --> 00:34:39,033 A few weeks after I came to SVU from Narcotics, 801 00:34:39,207 --> 00:34:42,689 Cragen had me talk to this four-year-old boy. 802 00:34:42,906 --> 00:34:44,826 His mother thought it was his Little League coach 803 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:48,086 that got to him, and she was right. 804 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:50,349 That little boy told me everything 805 00:34:50,566 --> 00:34:52,612 that happened to him. 806 00:34:52,829 --> 00:34:55,745 He was braver than most cops I've ever met. 807 00:34:57,007 --> 00:34:58,661 I never wanted to kill anybody more 808 00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:01,664 than I wanted to kill that dude. 809 00:35:01,882 --> 00:35:04,276 30 years later, I still think about it. 810 00:35:05,538 --> 00:35:07,931 Where is he now? 811 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,412 He stroked out waiting on an appeal. 812 00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:16,114 For a while, this job is all I thought about. 813 00:35:16,288 --> 00:35:18,159 I mean, everything else took a back seat... 814 00:35:18,377 --> 00:35:20,509 family, friends, plans. 815 00:35:20,727 --> 00:35:23,077 And dating? 816 00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:25,558 I mean, who wants to go out with somebody like me? 817 00:35:25,775 --> 00:35:26,994 Forget about it. 818 00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,562 With all this evil stuck in my head. 819 00:35:29,779 --> 00:35:32,130 It took a while to get straight with that. 820 00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:39,702 There's a difference between doing this job 821 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,270 and letting it become you. 822 00:35:42,488 --> 00:35:44,272 You feel me? 823 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:45,752 Yeah, Fin. 824 00:35:48,494 --> 00:35:50,322 But I don't know how we're gonna fix this. 825 00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:53,238 Stand up, Terry. 826 00:35:53,455 --> 00:35:55,370 Let me fill you in on this plan. 827 00:36:01,289 --> 00:36:03,900 Captain Benson, I filed a request 828 00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:05,558 for an operational review by the DOJ. 829 00:36:05,772 --> 00:36:07,861 Yeah? A review of what? 830 00:36:08,078 --> 00:36:10,211 Leadership at Manhattan SVU and the decision-making 831 00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:11,991 that got us there yesterday. 832 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:14,433 Okay, I think we both know what got us to this point. 833 00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:17,479 And if you came down here just to intimidate me, 834 00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:18,911 you're really wasting your time. 835 00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:20,304 I came down here to let you know that 836 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,005 there are consequences, Captain Benson. 837 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,047 And I'll do everything I can to make sure that you face them. 838 00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:25,792 Ah, well, good luck with that. 839 00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:29,274 Oh, and, um, you might wanna hold off on the DOJ. 840 00:36:29,491 --> 00:36:30,836 What does that mean? 841 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,581 It means that there's gonna be a lot more 842 00:36:32,799 --> 00:36:34,540 to review after today. 843 00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:36,977 Because if the task force wants to keep running 844 00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:40,241 a CSAM website themselves, 845 00:36:40,459 --> 00:36:42,112 then I'm gonna make sure that 846 00:36:42,287 --> 00:36:44,071 there's nothing left of it to run. 847 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:51,928 And by doing that, you're blowing our chance 848 00:36:51,992 --> 00:36:53,672 to get the people we think are moving kids. 849 00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:56,039 I need to look at the victims that are in front of me, 850 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,390 Agent Fei, not the ones that I can't see. 851 00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:00,126 Great. 852 00:37:00,130 --> 00:37:01,737 So when the next two-year-old gets taken to Bangkok 853 00:37:01,741 --> 00:37:03,743 to be raped, we'll make sure to tell her 854 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,000 that you had to look at the victims in front of you. 855 00:37:27,157 --> 00:37:29,247 Hey, you're coming with us. 856 00:37:29,464 --> 00:37:30,552 Let's go. 857 00:37:49,789 --> 00:37:52,705 Carisi checked with the DOJ. 858 00:37:52,922 --> 00:37:54,402 They charged Sam. 859 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:57,362 And with what we have on him, he's never getting out. 860 00:37:57,579 --> 00:37:58,972 We hear back from Sears? 861 00:37:59,189 --> 00:38:00,665 Yes, and Sears said that she's pulling everything 862 00:38:00,669 --> 00:38:01,797 she can from The Gate. 863 00:38:01,801 --> 00:38:04,151 And she said that she has almost all 864 00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:07,110 of Computer Crimes helping to find more producers. 865 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:10,331 And she said that today's canary never went out, 866 00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:12,986 meaning that users are leaving the site. 867 00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:14,988 The site's dying. 868 00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:16,468 -Good. -Yeah. 869 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:20,689 And the fallout on this? 870 00:38:20,907 --> 00:38:22,909 Well, uh, 871 00:38:23,126 --> 00:38:26,304 I'm here when DOJ wants to talk to me. 872 00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:33,354 But right now, Bruno, what I wanna talk about is... 873 00:38:33,572 --> 00:38:34,790 is you. 874 00:38:37,271 --> 00:38:40,318 So you're gonna take some time off. 875 00:38:40,535 --> 00:38:41,580 Wait. What? 876 00:38:41,797 --> 00:38:42,925 Yeah, it's nothing formal. 877 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:44,974 It's just, you know, accrued leave. 878 00:38:45,192 --> 00:38:46,759 I did my job on this, Cap. 879 00:38:46,976 --> 00:38:48,136 You did, and you did it well. 880 00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:49,584 Nobody is denying that. 881 00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:51,428 I watched those videos because somebody had to. 882 00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:53,374 -That's not the problem. -Then what is? 883 00:38:56,072 --> 00:38:59,162 Pretending that it didn't mess you up. 884 00:39:02,644 --> 00:39:04,820 Same way you pretend nothing messes you up? 885 00:39:05,038 --> 00:39:06,387 This isn't about me, Bruno. 886 00:39:06,605 --> 00:39:08,955 I mean, you got us up against the Feds. 887 00:39:09,172 --> 00:39:11,305 You risk your career... you risk all of ours. 888 00:39:11,479 --> 00:39:13,655 I don't see you taking any time off. 889 00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:16,870 I know that you think that this is about punishment, 890 00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:17,964 but it's not. 891 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:23,709 It's about protection. 892 00:39:23,926 --> 00:39:29,323 Because I do expect my detectives go above and beyond, 893 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:31,760 but not at their own expense. 894 00:39:39,899 --> 00:39:42,249 Okay. 895 00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:43,555 I hear you. 896 00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:50,344 But maybe I was just... 897 00:39:50,518 --> 00:39:51,693 following your lead. 898 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:00,136 Good night, Bruno.